I wonder what's the ceiling for these plans' prices.
At some point, it becomes a non-negligible fraction of the salary for the employee, especially in non-US employment markets.
ungreased0675 4 hours ago [-]
I think there will be an employer backlash at some point. Paying an extra couple thousand in subscriptions so a junior can write copy-paste emails and Slack messages? Nah fam, write those yourself.
lubujackson 1 hours ago [-]
Or just use AI mode on Google's homepage. I asked it to find an article that compares a certain thing to another, which doesn't exist. So Google automatically wrote a 5 page article comparing the two things and built a proper article with cited references. Most people don't need a subscription to anything.
brianwawok 9 hours ago [-]
A lot depends on how good open source models do. I know I can buy a 20k rig or whatever to get model X. If someone wants to charge me 3k a month to write code I just buy the hardware.
add-sub-mul-div 9 hours ago [-]
Once people become fully dependent the ceiling will be whatever they want it to be.
cyanydeez 9 hours ago [-]
Its cute you tgink youll be the one leveraging AI.
aeonfox 9 hours ago [-]
> tgink
A token misfired
cyanydeez 9 hours ago [-]
Sorry, asked copilotto think forme.
fullstackwife 15 hours ago [-]
Cloud agents in Codex are quite poor solution compared to Claude Code, you are forced to use your own computer, which is not the desired setup for anyone with a standard laptop not suitable for doing lots of work in parallel.
So I would still prefer to spend some dollars in Anthropic or even Cursor solutions, which work much better as cloud dev envs.
ryandetzel 20 hours ago [-]
If it's unlimited that would be tempting. But that will never happen and if it does "unlimited" would not be
sejje 17 hours ago [-]
Particularly in this situation, it cannot be unlimited. A command to one agent could scale into a whole datacenter very quickly.
It can feel unlimited for many use cases, probably. But I doubt it can, let's say, 3D model things in blender on 3 different computers for 24/7. And hey, why not 30 things? 300? If you're just watching them, it's easy to get ridiculous.
Someone1234 17 hours ago [-]
I understand your point; but I disagree - Unlimited is possible.
It gets into a "define unlimited" discussion. You could give "unlimited" usage, but still "limit" both concurrency and throttle speed. Even if you run 24/7, they still have knobs they can twist.
sejje 15 hours ago [-]
Fair enough, but you're kind of changing the parameters.
The limiting thing now is total tokens, so unlimited would mean infinite tokens.
And it's not hard to spin up to infinite tokens, one agent and one command can orchestrate it.
_aavaa_ 8 hours ago [-]
Is there really no limit on number of concurrent agents on either OpenAIs or Anthropic's plans?
Art9681 5 hours ago [-]
There is always a limit unless you start scaling horizontally in the sense that you have multiple accounts via subscription or API. There is always some limit to any single account, even via API.
I'm thinking the persistent agent is something that can't scale to multiple agents. Imagine only one agent you can invoke as many times as you want on a single account, but it cannot invoke subagents or scale itself. It's just always there ready to do work when you need it. But it behaves as "one".
This would be trivial to implement. Of course, if you have the money, you can have multiple $500 subscriptions and have multiple persistent agents.
linesofcode 4 hours ago [-]
I want it and I want it now.
drywater2 23 hours ago [-]
I'm waiting for the ProMaxUltra+
cinntaile 18 hours ago [-]
That's the next iPhone.
Jeremy1026 13 hours ago [-]
Duo.
rearview 23 hours ago [-]
to be honest wasn't much surprised cause of the current situation like frontier models being so expensive and the models like opus consuming way much more tokens you just can't justify any of that. this token math is just so damned right now :(
ls1911 23 hours ago [-]
the bottom line is that a.i is getting more and more expensive and they have excuses for that.
just last week trae.ai reduced its plan credits from 400$ to 100$
sejje 17 hours ago [-]
Inference for the same level of intelligence is getting cheaper. Frontier intelligence keeps finding ways to get more expensive, yes.
But gpt-6-sol, for instance, dropped price for the same level of intelligence. That will keep happening, and someday we'll have basically-free sol. And hopefully by then, very cheap astra.
But some new wild thing will be very expensive.
I'm sure I'll figure out how to use the new one, but I would be extremely happy with near-free Astra.
zeroonetwothree 9 hours ago [-]
Sol6 is clearly worse than 5.6. Have you tried using it? And Astra is more expensive.
deaux 7 hours ago [-]
Claude subs are great value again ever since Astra release moved lots of people to OpenAI subs. Even moreso since Opus 5.5 release.
dudewhocodes 23 hours ago [-]
We stole all your work, just subscribe to get it back... now at $500/month.
moomoo11 14 hours ago [-]
tired take
thin_carapace 8 hours ago [-]
I'd be tired too if my industry was being destroyed and scavenged by millionaires
Ask HN: How do you feel about the new $500 OpenAI subscription? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49838409 - Sept 2026 (8 comments)
A token misfired
So I would still prefer to spend some dollars in Anthropic or even Cursor solutions, which work much better as cloud dev envs.
It can feel unlimited for many use cases, probably. But I doubt it can, let's say, 3D model things in blender on 3 different computers for 24/7. And hey, why not 30 things? 300? If you're just watching them, it's easy to get ridiculous.
It gets into a "define unlimited" discussion. You could give "unlimited" usage, but still "limit" both concurrency and throttle speed. Even if you run 24/7, they still have knobs they can twist.
The limiting thing now is total tokens, so unlimited would mean infinite tokens.
And it's not hard to spin up to infinite tokens, one agent and one command can orchestrate it.
I'm thinking the persistent agent is something that can't scale to multiple agents. Imagine only one agent you can invoke as many times as you want on a single account, but it cannot invoke subagents or scale itself. It's just always there ready to do work when you need it. But it behaves as "one".
This would be trivial to implement. Of course, if you have the money, you can have multiple $500 subscriptions and have multiple persistent agents.
But gpt-6-sol, for instance, dropped price for the same level of intelligence. That will keep happening, and someday we'll have basically-free sol. And hopefully by then, very cheap astra.
But some new wild thing will be very expensive.
I'm sure I'll figure out how to use the new one, but I would be extremely happy with near-free Astra.
it didn't exist 100 years ago
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